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Gulf Knight
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this is form gamespy PC
Wings Over Vietnam (PC)
In Wings Over Vietnam, players fly campaigns through some of the most highly defended areas of North Vietnam. With over twelve aircraft to choose from -- such as the awesome F4 Phantom or the F-105D Thunderchief, players will launch day and night operations from Kitty Hawk or Essex Class aircraft carriers and attempt to slip through menacing MiGs, SAMs and Triple-A against overwhelming odds. Wings Over Vietnam contains some of the most heart-pounding, authentic missions available in a flight simulator. Novice or experienced sim pilots can test their marksmanship on historical power plants, bridges, airbases and naval facilities of the Viet Cong. Those who live long enough will win decorations, awards and promotions with each successful mission. These are just a few of the thrills you'll experience as a U.S. Air Force, Marine or Navy pilot.
Patch 1 (V11-5-04)
This is a maintenance patch to bring Wings Over Vietnam up to the Strike Fighters: Project 1 Service Pack 3 standard.
Third Wire Productions
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SuperKungFu
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| yea i was checking that game out last night on a couple of websites. It seems like a pretty cool game with good gameplay...its just that the graphics doesn't seem like its at its full potential. For a game that was recently released…I expect the graphics to be better. I may be wrong...maybe the graphics are good…it’s probably those bad screenshots on the websites. If anyone gets the game could you tell me whether the graphics are better than, or at least near, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 and LOMAC?
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Gulf Knight
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| I just obtained my copy of the game and I can say that it’s the same as SF-P1 with some improvement. As the graphics go it’s excellent, but nothing like MFS-2004 graphic. ;)
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| cool....thanks for the info...i'm gonna get my copy as soon as possible
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How good is this game? I have Stike Fighters, and really don't like it. I use to like flying the F-4 and F-100 and add all of the new planes, but the gameplay got so lame just playing a random mission. Is the gameplay improved? How much does it cost? (U.S $)
From what I can tell and heard, it is very much like Strikefighters. I saw some WOV screenshots not too long ago and though it was Strikefighters! Can you add in all of the planes that you added in Strikefighters? If you can'y, I'm not buying it. Because it d/l all of the flyable planes in WOV for free! 
I know that graphics aren't good, but is the gameplay improved? Are the campagns like Jane's USAF, or are they just random missions like in Strikefighters?
So, is it just Strikefighters with new terrain, new flyables, and a working multiplayer? If so, I can d/l all of these features if I wanted to (for free.)
Are the flight physics improved? Is the game worth to buy a copy?
Overall, how much is it improved and changed.
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Gulf Knight
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I like the game, but if you don’t like Strike Fighters I don’t think you well like this one two, I have just installed the game so I have not played it for that long I well give you gentleman’s a good long report soon. As how much does it cost? It’s a round 29$
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Thanks. When you try it some more tell me what you think. 
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It's the same as SF-P1 they just renamed it  that's all 
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| I never did play SF-P1...how is the gameplay? All i want is a game with an arcade view like Jane's USAF but overall still pretty realistic. All the games that do have an arcade view has moved out of the PC world . Please tell me Wings over Vietnam has an arcade view. If not...then i just got to look forward to some future flight simulator games. The future of flight simulators is dying out...everyone wants to play some mind-less first person shooter games.
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Thats too bad, I guess I'm going to skip this title.
But I think flightsimming is only going to get better, with the new Lock On: Flaming Cliffs being released, Jet Thunder, and Fighter Ops. Fighter Ops is a flight sim bases off of Falcon 4.0 I think, and uses Xplane's code for FMs and physics. You can fly the A-10, F-15E, F-15C, and F-16, plus 4 trainer aircraft. Don't know much about it, but it is going to be more realistic than LOMAC. Some people say that it will be cancelled, but lets all just hope it comes out.
SF-P1 was in my opinion a bad game. The graphics aren't that good, it's flying physics are bad, not much modelled avionics. So for being a flightsim, it failed. And it can't be like USAF because USAF had good campagns, where as SF has none. You'll like it at first, but then it'll get the same. The onyl good thing about it is that you can add lots of flyable planes, and there is a nice strong community for it. 
But yes people do want to play 1st person shooters more than anything. 
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Hey Gulf Knight
Could you please post a screenshot of the gameplay so i have an idea what im about to spend my money on? Preferable an arcade view…if there is none…maybe like a cockpit view during combat would be nice. Thanks.
-Michael
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Hey Gulf Knight
Could you please post a screenshot of the gameplay so i have an idea what im about to spend my money on? Preferable an arcade view…if there is none…maybe like a cockpit view during combat would be nice. Thanks.
-Michael
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Yes there is an arcade view. It shows your speed/alt, and also shows the enemy planes speed and stuff.  The missions are always the same random generated missions, where you choose your plane, you task, weather, time, the amount of enemy planes/ground stuff. Then it randomly generates everything. There is no mission editor nor a proper campaign. Don't expect anything like LOMAC or USAF. These are all old planes, so avionics are limited and the developers just never modelled all of the aircraft's systems. The missions always get repetitive, they are always almost the same. As for screenshots, go looking around some sites. I have a few I think, but they aren't hosted anywhere.
As for graphics, the planes look somewhat nice but everything else (The terrain) really needs to be worked on.
But you have to try it to see if you like it. You will either like it a lot, or not like it at all.
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NICE...glad to hear there's actually an arcade view. Could you tell me more about the game. I've been to several websites and it has shown me screenshots but most of theme were like chase views that doesnt shows the HUD functions. Could someone still post an in-flight arcade view...i want to see for myself what functions are displayed like the targeting, radar, weapons, height, speed, course...etc. Also, does the arcade view stick to the back of the plane? For example when you move you're plane...does the camera follow the plane or just stays there to view the scenery and u have to adjust it again or something. (hope you understood that) Any info will be great.
-Michael
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| o yea...i forgot to ask how big it was...from what i've read...i think its a little over 350 MB! Damn thats small...is that true?
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NICE...glad to hear there's actually an arcade view. Could you tell me more about the game. I've been to several websites and it has shown me screenshots but most of theme were like chase views that doesnt shows the HUD functions. Could someone still post an in-flight arcade view...i want to see for myself what functions are displayed like the targeting, radar, weapons, height, speed, course...etc. Also, does the arcade view stick to the back of the plane? For example when you move you're plane...does the camera follow the plane or just stays there to view the scenery and u have to adjust it again or something. (hope you understood that) Any info will be great.
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There is no HUD in SF-P1 or WOV. The aircraft in the game never had HUDs. Nothing like targeting is displayed, it is non-existant in this series. The arcade veiw doesn't tick in the back of the plane, I beleive it is like LOMAC's F2 key, except with the arcade stuff. The camera follows the plane. There are also no cool views like in LOMAC.
As it being 350MB, I'm not sure. I don't have WOV, but only Strikefighters. But they are almost identical. Almost every view and characteristic about the game is the same.
If I were you, before I spend $30 on WOV, I'd buy Strikefighters, it cost about 5-10 $(If you don't have it already) Play it for a while, download some of the mods, if you like it and feel WOV is worth it, buy it, if not don't. The gameplay is almost exactly the same, so this way it you don't like it you only spend about 5-10$, and if you do you can buy WOV and you'll be happy. :P
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| kool...thanks for the suggestion...ill follow your way. But that's kind of stupid how WOV and Strikefighters are nearly identical...u would think the company would try something new. That must have been a cheap game to make since everything is nearly the same.
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| I was kind of shocked at WOV to. I mean, all of the new flyable planes added in I can download for free in Strikefighters. I think the developers should have worked on it more to make it better. The only feature it comes with that Strikefighters doesn't is multiplayer. Strikefighters had it, but it never worked... and there is no patch to fix it. What really gets to me is the terrain... it is suppose to be in Veitnam but it is just a randomly generated place. So it doesn't even look like you are flying over Veitnam. Also the developers made it be in the Veitnam era because the first game took place in the late 50s-70s. This way all they had to do was add a few more flyables, and make some random terrain and call it Veitnam. They should have modelled some different era of flight, like in the 80s.
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I just got WOV yesterday and it’s pretty cool. The graphics is pretty decent, but the terrain sucks. I see what you meant Flogger23m; they did just randomly generated places and called it Vietnam. However, I checked a few sites and a lot of people have made skins/mods already (that was quick considering this game was just released in October) so hopefully that will enhance the gaming experience. The camera views are also not that good. And the realistic charities could be better, like when I was taking off, it seemed like I just floated off. And you're right; they should have modeled some different era of flight. The 80s would be pretty cool; maybe someone out there will create a mod for it so we could bring in some more modern planes like the Flanker! 8) But overall, the game is still pretty cool.
-Michael
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o...i forgot to add that the icon for Wings Over Vietnam is really stupid!...i mean seriously...they could at least make the icon look better. So could anyone help me create a new icon (maybe like an F-4 flying out...dont have to have "WoV" on it) or at least help me find a good picture so i can do it. Thanks
-Michael
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| WOV could have been an add-on for SFP1 but they burned the gravy on that name too soon. WOV is not nearly as buggy, has graphics as good or better, and will no doubt have an add-on community as large or larger. It;'s the best game available for these aircraft, so that makes it buyable until something (and it may never come) beats it. Red Baron still wins at WWl sims because nothing beats it, and WOV looks to hold it's spot too.
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